Subject:      "into the flood" mini-review
From:         fish@daacdev1.stx.com ("John R. Vanderpool")
Date:         1995/12/18
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

someone (craig?) mentioned a few weeks back if anyone had heard
"into the flood"  i saw it at a boot show and if this is the one
that is the capital centre, largo, MD 1974 its pretty lame - a
barely average audience recording - i only listened to thirty seconds
of it on a walkman so this is no definative word on this release
but it did not sound like something i'ld want i don't think (particularly
since "love songs for america" and "before and after the flood" are
so good!)

                                fish
--
..and I, I don't mind the pain, don't mind the drivin' rain,
          I know I will sustain, because I believe in you....   -bob dylan

for Earth Science data and information use URL http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/

Here are the sources for the tracks on the Phantoms of My Youth 3 CD set. Everything is of course from 1974 (the set is a complete chronicle of the 74 tour - every song performed).

Hero Blues - Chicago 1-3
Most Likely ... - NYC 1-31 (EVE)
RDW 12+35 - Boston 1-14 (AFT)
Lay Lady Lay - NYC 1-31-74 (EVE)
It Takes a Lot to Laugh ... - Toronto 1-9
Tom Thumb's Blues - Boston 1-14 (AFT)
Tough Mama - Philadelphia 1-6 (AFT)
Babe - NYC 1-31-74 (EVE)
As I Went Out One Morning - Toronto 1-10
I Don't Believe You - Boston 1-14 (AFT)
One Too Many Mornings - Largo 1-16
Ballad of a Thin man - NYC 1-31 (EVE)
LSPB Hat - Atlanta 1-21
Watchtower - Boston 1-14 (AFT)
Mr. T Man - LA 2-14 (EVE)
Hollis Brown - NYC 1-31 (AFT)
Knockin' - Boston 1-14 (AFT)

Times - NYC 1-31 (AFT)
Blowin' - Montreal 1-12
Song to Woody - Philadelphia 1-6 (EVE)
4th Time Around - Memphis 1-23
Don't Think Twice - Boston 1-14 (AFT)
Visions of Johanna - Denver 2-6 (AFT)
Wedding Song - Seattle 2-9 (EVE)
Girl of NC - Philadelphia 1-7
She Belongs to Me - LA 2-14 (AFT)
Gates of Eden - NYC 1-31 (EVE)
Hard Rain - St. Louis 2-4 (AFT)
Ramona - Philadelphia 1-6 (AFT)
Baby Blue - LA 2-14 (AFT)
Hattie Carroll - Seattle 2-9 (AFT)
Mama You Been ... Philadelphia 1-6 (AFT)

Just Like a Woman - Boston 1-14 (AFT)
Desolation Row - St. Louis 2-4 (AFT)
Nobody 'Cept You - Philadelphia 1-7-74
Love Minus Zero - Toronto 1-10
Mr. T Man - Philadelphia 1-6 (EVE)
It's Alright ma - NYC 1-31 (EVE)
Forever Young - -Oakland 2-11 (AFT)
Something there is About You - Uniondale 1-28
Highway 61 - Seattle 2-9 (EVE)
LARS - Oakland 2-11 (AFT)
Most likely (reprise) - Uniondale 1-28
Maggie's Farm - Oakland 2-11 (AFT)
Blowin' - LA 2-14 (EVE)

Hope this proves useful, and whoever EDLIS's such things, please do so. I have no desire to type all this again.

rainman

"Thought I'd shaken the wonder,
and the phantoms of my youth."

Subject:      Poet & Players cds / new '74 board
From:         elcabong@panix.com (Geoffrey Meyer)
Date:         1996/02/22
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

The Poet & The Players cds (2) allege that they are a complete 
soundboard of the 1/30/74 NYC afternoon show, which is a soundboard 
which has never yet circulated.

These cds are actually the incomplete soundboard of the 1/30/74 
NYC evening show with the incomplete soundboard of the Feb. 11, 
'74 Oakland evening soundboard tacked onto the end.  (Both of these 

board tapes have circulated for several years already.)  Between 
the two of them, they do ape the set of the 1/30/74 afternoon show, 
but there are some clear "markers" to indicate that they are just 
the old tapes.  (To name two: at the end of You Go Your Way, Bob 
makes the unusual if not unique remark, "It's a rare privilege to
be here" [he said that at the evening show & not at the afternoon 
show], and the first half line of Forever Young [the first Dylan 
song of the old Oakland board] is sung off-mike.)

Are there really any new '74 boards floating around?



Subject:      Poet & Players CDs
From:         Bob Stacy 
Date:         1996/02/24
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

Is there mixed up confusion in New York City?

Geoffrey Meyer wrote:
>The Poet & The Players cds (2) allege that they are a complete
>soundboard of the 1/30/74 NYC afternoon show, which is a soundboard
>which has never yet circulated.
>These cds are actually the incomplete soundboard of the 1/30/74
>NYC evening show with the incomplete soundboard of the Feb. 11,
>'74 Oakland evening soundboard tacked onto the end.  (Both of these
>board tapes have circulated for several years already.)  Between
>the two of them, they do ape the set of the 1/30/74 afternoon show...

Thanks for the news.  But don’t you mean that the "alleging" or "aping" 
that’s being done is for the 1/31/74 afternoon show?  Most records show 
that there was only one show on 1/30/74 (probably an evening show) and then 
afternoon and evening performances on 1/31/74.  Indeed, a copy of the 
subject discs in the hands of this listener so states:

"Madison Square Gardens, New York City 31.1.74 Early Show"

"Maggie’s Farm" is the #18 Dylan-performed song on the CD and was also the 
#18 song on the Dylan setlist for 1/31/74 (aft.).  That was the only time 
"Maggie’s" was performed at the NYC shows.

No problems with the presumption that this 2CD soundboard set is the likely 
combination of two existing soundboards from other shows (your marker 
points are good ones).  In fact, our good buddies Krogsgaard & Dundas 
co-verify that the last part of the Oakland 2/11/74 (eve.) "tacked" onto 
the first part of either one of the NYC (eve.) shows could equal a complete 
NYC 1/31/74 (aft.).  That’s all well and good, but even then, there’s still 
some minor disagreement between those two venerable references.  Krogsgaard 
(1991) notes the existence of 14 stereo PA songs from 1/30/74 but does not 
acknowledge the availability of any PA songs from either of the two Oakland 
shows.  (Circulation of the Oakland partial soundboard has likely occurred 
since 1991 so that’s OK).  Dundas (1994) does cite the existence of an 
incomplete Oakland soundboard tape, but then possibly drops the ball when 
he credits the circulating partial NYC soundboard tape to the evening of 
1/31/74.  Did I say mixed up confusion?

Oh my gosh!  What if Dundas is correct about NYC and Krogsgaard turns out 
not to be?  Then it all may as well be thrown out in the wash.  So, I’m 
going back, put the CD on, and forget about where any of it at all comes 
from ‘cause it’s still a damn good dose - most anyway you portion it out.

Moe (DBTW #19) hit it square on the nose when he tabbed this outing one 
worth locating.  Perfection it ain’t - with a number of rough edges - but 
the clarity of the instrumentation and the up-front vocals make it fly as a 
much truer-to-being there experience than what was all too slickly 
presented by Asylum Records.  Mucho energy and excitement in the playing 
and in Bob’s singing - about as good as it was going to get in the 1974 
Tour de Force.  Particularly on songs such as "AATW" and "Hollis Brown" you 
can once again feel those old Robbie Robertson/Garth Hudson motive forces 
kick in to transform the songs into a whole other level of frenzied 
overdrive.  One that was born under fire, crafted out, and then became 
second nature during their shows eight years earlier.  This was proof that 
they still had it and could still do it!

-Bob Stacy



Subject:      Re: Poet & Players CDs
From:         elcabong@panix.com (Geoffrey Meyer)
Date:         1996/02/24
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

In <312EBD2F.1714@usit.net> Bob Stacy  writes:

>Is there mixed up confusion in New York City?

>Geoffrey Meyer wrote:
>>The Poet & The Players cds (2) allege that they are a complete
>>soundboard of the 1/30/74 NYC afternoon show, which is a soundboard

>Thanks for the news.  But don't you mean that the "alleging" or "aping" 
>that's being done is for the 1/31/74 afternoon show?  Most records show 

I'm sorry -- of course you are right, and thanks for publicly clarifying
that.  All mentions of 1/30/74 in my post about '74 soundboards should
have read "1/31/74."  The soundboard which circulates and the one which
the Poet & The Players cd innacurately alleges itself to be are both
1/31/74.  Just pure carelessness on my part to have misstated the 1/30/74
date -- there was only one show that day, and there's no circulating board 
tape, alleged or veritable.  (I should never post without Krogsgaard
*and* Dundas open on my lap!)



Subject:      74 Soundboard
From:         hughe@zygote.hhcl.com (Hugh Eaton)
Date:         1996/02/29
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

I have seen a 2 Cd boot called Down in The Flood, not Poet & The Players,
with a 74 soundboard recording.  There was no date on the label.  The
sound quality was very good, but there was a very intrusive audio whine or
buzz over all the tracks.  Has anyone else seen this? Is this recording
available anywhere without the noise? Thanks.



Subject:      New York City 1974 soundboard confusion
From:         John Howells 
Date:         1996/04/17
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

Okay, does anybody know the real and final definitive story on the
recently released CD "The Poet and the Players" which claims to be
a complete 1974 show, specifically the 1/31/74 afternoon show? I
just got a tape of this and it's exactly the same as the old circulating
1974 tape that claimed at one time to be 1/30/74 and then corrected to
1/31/74 evening. This tape is the first 90 minutes only and cuts off
before "The Shape I'm In" is finished. It also has the beginning of
"All Along the Watchtower" cut off.

Sometime after this tape was in circulation it appeared on a 2-CD set
called "Before and After the Flood" and claimed to be the entire show
because it included songs right up through "Like a Rolling Stone", but
these were soon said to be from a different show. This particular set
excluded both "Watchtower" and "Shape I'm In" because they weren't
complete.

Now we have this latest set which claims to be a *different* show but
it sure as hell isn't. Oddly enough, this version (in somewhat muddier
sound than my old tape) has the partial "Watchtower" and "Shape I'm In"
restored to their rightful place and continues on after the latter with
what is supposed to be a partial soundboard recording from one of the
Oakland shows.

So my questions are these:

1) Which show is the bulk of this set really from? Can anyone confirm or
deny that it's really the 1/31/74 evening show? I don't have audience
tapes from any of these shows to compare with.

2) Which Oakland show is the remainder from and does the entire show
exist in the same quality? If not, why not?

-- 

                                                           John Howells
                                                        howells@sgi.com
                                         http://reality.sgi.com/howells



Subject:      Re: New York City 1974 soundboard confusion
From:         Bob Stacy 
Date:         1996/04/17
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

John Howells wrote:

>Okay, does anybody know the real and final definitive story on the
>recently released CD "The Poet and the Players" which claims to be
>a complete 1974 show, specifically the 1/31/74 afternoon show? I
>just got a tape of this and it's exactly the same as the old circulating
>1974 tape that claimed at one time to be 1/30/74 and then corrected to
>1/31/74 evening. This tape is the first 90 minutes only and cuts off
>before "The Shape I'm In" is finished. It also has the beginning of
>"All Along the Watchtower" cut off.

[snip]

>Now we have this latest set which claims to be a *different* show but
>it sure as hell isn't. Oddly enough, this version (in somewhat muddier
>sound than my old tape) has the partial "Watchtower" and "Shape I'm In"
>restored to their rightful place and continues on after the latter with
>what is supposed to be a partial soundboard recording from one of the
>Oakland shows.
>
>So my questions are these:
>
>1) Which show is the bulk of this set really from? Can anyone confirm or
>deny that it's really the 1/31/74 evening show? I don't have audience
>tapes from any of these shows to compare with.
>
>2) Which Oakland show is the remainder from and does the entire show
>exist in the same quality? If not, why not?

Even as we speak - the first question is being worked.  I could've and
should've started on this problem sooner, but John didn't officially post
the assignment until earlier today! ;-)

Evidence is a bit preliminary, but there's enough to start hauling it out in
front of the class for further comment.

Through some A-B listening comparisons of audience tapes from all three NYC
shows to each other and to the "The Poet and the Players" CD, I've been able
to conclude that the bulk source of the CD is the 1/31/74 evening show.
Note this conclusion is still _preliminary_.  Although a number of
distinctly different and/or similar identity points have been determined, a
greater number are desirable.  Such work is in progress.  But here's what
I've gathered so far:

Most Likely You Go Your Way - (in the final verse):
1/30/74: Yes, I believe you do.
1/31/74 (aft.): Yes, I believe you do.
1/31/74 (eve.): Yes, I *guess* you do.
CD:  Yes, I *guess* you do.

Dylan [speaks] between MLYGYW and Lay Lady Lay:
1/30/74:  [???] [It's good to be back ???] [It's an honor to be here.]
1/31/74 (aft.):  [Thank you] [It's an honor to be here.]
1/31/74 (eve.):  No comparison possible.  Tape gets interrupted between
songs. I hate it when they do that!
CD:  [Thank you] [It's great to be back in New York.] [It's a rare privilege
to be here.]

Knockin' On Heaven's Door - (2nd verse):
1/30/74:  [I'm sick and tired of the war.]
From "Before the Flood" (1/30/74):  [I'm sick and tired of the war.]
1/31/74 (aft.):  [I'm *so* sick of this war.] -- note: he does not say *tired*.
1/31/74 (eve.):   [I'm sick and tired of *this* war.]
CD:  [I'm sick and tired of *this* war.]

Well, that's all the time this evening I've had to pull clues out of my
detective bag.  We're goin' back to New York City;  don't believe we've had
quite enough of this to tell the full story.  Just thought you might be
interested in what's come out of it so far [i.e., some verification points
between the CD and the 1/31/74 (eve.) show and some difference points
between the other two shows and the CD].  More work's yet to be done on this.

Oh - also in just giving the 1/31/74 (eve.) tape a general listen - and it's
not a very good sound quality recording at all - some of the songs "feel"
and "sound" the same as those on the CD and different than songs from the
other shows.  Hard to explain this; maybe you know what I mean?  But still
more true identity points are needed - unless somebody will supply us with
other kinds of hard evidence like yes _for absolutely sure_ the CD is from
such & such show(s).  Just sometimes there's not always a whole lot of
_absolutely sures_ in the wacky world of Bob Dylan!

BTW - I don't have recordings of either of the two 1974 Oakland shows so
comparisons of them to the latter portion of this CD (from Forever Young to
the end of the set) will have to go to somebody else.  Wasn't the old LP "We
Never Really Got It On Until Oakland" supposed to be from the Oakland
evening show?  Was that ever confirmed?

-Bob Stacy



Subject:      NYC 1974 soundboard confusion
From:         Ray Schweighardt 
Date:         1996/04/17
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

>Date:    Wed, 17 Apr 1996 07:40:55 -0700
>From:    John Howells 
>Subject: New York City 1974 soundboard confusion

>1) Which show is the bulk of this set really from? Can anyone confirm or
>deny that it's really the 1/31/74 evening show? I don't have audience
>tapes from any of these shows to compare with.

Let me say that I haven't heard the new CD you speak of, BUT, if it's the
same show as "Before And After The
Flood", and the same as the tape that's been around since the late 80's,
it's definitely New York 1-31-74
Afternoon Show (I have compared it to the audience tape).  One song, and one
song only, from the 1-31-74
afternoon show can be heard from soundboard on the "Before The Flood" rough
mix tape ("Ballad of Hollis
Brown")as well as on the "Phantoms of My Youth" 3 CD set.

>2) Which Oakland show is the remainder from and does the entire show
>exist in the same quality? If not, why not?

The Oakland soundboard tape is 2-11-74 Afternoon show.  It has "The Weight"
through the end of the show
(I've compared this to the audience tape as well).  Why don't we have the
rest?  Well, it seems pretty obvious
that the '74 soundboards were taped on 90 minute tapes.  So we have tape 1
of 2 for Boston and New York,
and tape 2 of 2 from Oakland.  Since these 3 shows apparently weren't taped
on multi-track, I would guess
they simply used cassettes.


rainman
-------
"The princess and the prince discuss
 what's real, and what is not."



Subject:      Re: NYC 1974 soundboard confusion
From:         l.kokay@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Les Kokay)
Date:         1996/04/21
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

In article <199604172256.SAA31945@buttercup.cybernex.net>, rainman@CYBERNEX.NET 
says...

>>1) Which show is the bulk of this set really from? Can anyone confirm or
>>deny that it's really the 1/31/74 evening show? I don't have audience
>>tapes from any of these shows to compare with.

>same show as "Before And After The Flood", and the same as the tape that's 
been around since the late 80's, it's definitely New York 1-31-74
>Afternoon Show (I have compared it to the audience tape). 
>

I too compared it to the audience tapes and it corrosponds to my NY 1-31-74 
EVENING Show. Strange I thought, so I did a little digging.

Dundas says it is the 31 Jan 74 Evening. (TUIT 1994)
Krogsgaard says it is  30 Jan 74 (PBD 1991)
The Telegraph: 30 Jan 74 (RTS 23) corrected to 31 Jan 74 (Eve) T38 (CH)

CD NY City 74 - lists it as 31 Jan 74 (Eve)
CD Before & After the Flood lists it as 30 Jan 74

Phill T in S & P lists it as 31 Jan 74 (Aft)

The general experts opinion now agree with 31 Jan 74 AFT and EVE.
Confused? Well I hadn't noticed before but the Afternoon and Evening shows are 
transposed between Dundas & Krogsgaard (for 31 Jan 74), so depending on whose 
listings to believe to be correct it is either 31 Jan 74 (Aft) - K or 31 Jan 74 
(Eve) - D. 

For the record, my audience tapes, which I've had since the late 70's co-incide 
with Dundas, so I think it is 31 Jan 74 (Eve).

As for the rest of rainman's comments, I fully support these. I could add that 
the cut 'The Shape I'm in" that emerged as the first track on the part 2 SB 
tape (31 Jan 74) cannot be from this show, but that is only an aside for tape 
collectors.

Les



Subject:      Re: Dylan '74
From:         Jeff 
Date:         1996/09/27
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

>Date:    Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:49:41 -0400
>From:    Bob Meyer 
>Subject: Dylan '74
>
>  What is the best quailty Dylan boot from 1974. Are there any with just
>Dylan's songs? Do they all include The Band's songs?

Most live CDs from this period include The Band's songs for a complete 2CD
concert. The high quality ones are
"The Poet & the Players" or "Before and After the Flood".

"New York City 74" or "Tangled Up in New York" are 1CD without The Band songs
but do not contain all of Bob's songs for the show.

All of the above are reported to come from Madison Square Garden 1/31/74
afternoon show but "The Poet & the Players" has some bonus tracks.

Phantoms of My Youth is a compilation 3CD containing 1 version of each of the
songs Bob performed during the tour. To accomplish this required using sources
of varying quality.

EDLIS Boot Advisory Agent



Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:57:44 UT
From: Jeff 
Subject: Re: Tour '74

>Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 05:34:18 GMT
>From:    spjohnny@EARTHLINK.NET
>Subject: Re: Tour '74
>
>Someone wrote:
>
>> However the bootleg 'Phantoms of my Youth' which is a live
>> recording of every song (one time) Dylan played on that tour, is a much
>> better listen in my opinion.  I would tape it for you but my copy is at
>least 5th
>> generation and it is barely listenable.
>
>Even on the CD itself, a number of cuts are barely listenable. Sound
>quality on this 3-CD set is very uneven -- excellent soundboards, awful
>audience recordings, and everything in between.

This is my favorite CD title from 74 tour. For those who might not be too
impressed with the other official and unofficial releases from the 74 tour, if
you can stand the variable quality, then this might change you mind on the 74
tour.

EDLIS Boot Advisory Agent



From: dyln61@ix.netcom.com (Bob Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Forever Young 1974
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 19:10:36 -0500

Anyone have any info on the newly released  CD:  

 Forever Young
 (2CDs 1-31-74;  Dylan & the Band, full show w/ rehearsal)

Sounboard ?? 

Does 2CD's mean it is both afternoon and evening shows ??

• Bob Meyer  
 www.netcom.com/~dyln61/



From: rcj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Craig Jamieson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Forever Young...
Date: 24 Jul 1997 13:23:32 GMT

I cannot recall anyone posting on rec.music.dylan about the album

Forever Young 
2 CDs, 1997
31 January 1974 including rehearsals...

How does this one relate to old 31 January 1974 Dylan albums like:
Before And After The Flood -- Blowin' In The Wind -- Madison
Square Gardens 1974 -- New York City '74 -- Tangled Up In
New York -- The Poet & The Players, etc etc etc? 

And remember, kids, this is not the same as your other Forever Young 
Dylan album.  Unfortunate duplication of title with that 2 September  
1995 performance on Forever Young (Gamble Records, BSGR-09, [1995]
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Matrix: BSGR 09). 

Nor is it anything to do with CSK 1151, XPCD 116, or the like. 

You begin to see why people seek advice from 

bdbdb@edlis.org 

in order to separate the wheat from the chaff in the tangled web of
Bob's boots... 

What are opinions about this one amongst rec.music.dylan readers?
Worth buying? Easy to find where you are? 

                                                          Craig



From: dyln61@ix.netcom.com (Bob Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Forever Young...
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:09:29 -0500

In article <5r7l0k$n6l@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, rcj10@cam.ac.uk wrote:

 
> How does this one relate to old 31 January 1974 Dylan albums like:
> Before And After The Flood -- Blowin' In The Wind -- Madison
> Square Gardens 1974 -- New York City '74 -- Tangled Up In
> New York -- The Poet & The Players, etc etc etc? 


How sure are we that these are from 1/31/74 (evening) ?  

I've always suspected these albums were actually from 1/30/74.

• Bob Meyer  
 www.netcom.com/~dyln61/



Subject:      Before the Flood
From:         lspenceley@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Lorna Spenceley")
Date:         1997/08/16
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

I just got The poet and the players and was surprised at how different 
this is from BTF, recorded just 2 weeks later.  Did Robbie Robertson do 
the same overdub "improvements" he did on Last waltz and The Basement 
tapes?  His solos in particular seem edgier, more ragged and less 
grandiloquent on Poet and the Players (Better IMO).  

Nick



Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:38:26 -0700
From: Jeff 
Subject: Re: Forever Young CD

On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 12:14:05 -0500, in rec.music.dylan
dyln61@ix.netcom.com (Bob Meyer) wrote:


>FOREVER YOUNG
>BOB DYLAN & THE BAND
>31 JANUARY 1974 (evening)
>
>FRONT ROW CENTER (no visible matrix numbers)
>Cool Daddy productions
>Made In Yugoslavia
>
>Sounboard of complete show, including "The Band", all have been
>released
>before on other CD's. A nice buy if you have never heard it before
>(IMHO).
>
>The "Rehearsals" are from May 1976 they are:
>
>13. Just Like A Woman
>14. Hurricane
>15. Lay Lady Lay
>
>The back insert says that "One More Cup Of Coffee is nimber 16. But
>the CD
>ends with "Lay Lady Lay".
>
>Here is the setlist from the back insert, typed word for word.
>(it looks like Miss Information was in charge of proofreading):
>
>DISC # 1   (68:46)
>
>  1. You go your way I'll go mine
>  2. Lay Lady Lay
>  3. Thom Thumb Blues
>  4. Rainy Day Women .....
>  5. It Ain't Me Babe
>  6. Ballad of a Thin Man
>  7. Stagefright
>  8. Dixie
>  9. King Honest
>10. When you gonna Wake Up
>11. Up on Cripple Creek
>12. All Along the Watchtower
>13. Hollis Brown
>14. Knockin on Heaven's Door
>15. The Times they are a changing
>16. Don't think Twice it's Alright
>17. Gates of Eden
>
>DISC #2   (72:27)
>
>  1. Just Like A Woman
>  2. It's Alright Ma
>  3. Rag Mama Rag
>  4. Wheels of Fire
>  5. Shape I'm In
>  6. The Wait
>  7. Forever Young
>  8. Highway 61
>  9. Like A Rolling Stone
>10. Maggie's Farm
>11. Blow'in in the Wind
>
>(REHEARSALS MAY 1976) = BONUS TRACKS
>12. JUST LIKE A WOMAN
>13. HURRICANE
>14. LAY LADY LAY
>15. ONE MORE CUP OF COFFEE

Ice magazine has reported this CD is a clone of "The Poet & the Players".
 If it is (not including the 76 rehearsals), then Disc #2 tracks 7 through
11 are reported to be from 2/11/74.

EDLIS Boot Advisory Agent



Subject:      Re: Forever Young CD
From:         Jeff 
Date:         1997/08/27
Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

>From:  adamg@DOSWELL.COM.PL (Adam Gondek, Menard Doswell & Co Sp. z o. o.)
>Date: 97-08-26 09:17:28 EDT
>Subject: Fwd: Forever Young CD
>
>On Sat, Aug 23, 1997, 10:33:22 Bob Meyer wrote:
>
>
>>FOREVER YOUNG
>>BOB DYLAN & THE BAND
>>31 JANUARY 1974 (evening)
>>
>>FRONT ROW CENTER (no visible matrix numbers)
>>Cool Daddy productions
>>Made In Yugoslavia
>
>>10. When you gonna Wake Up
>
>
>Is this correct????

This is from the Band portion of the show. "The Poets & the Players" lists
this as "When you gonna Wake Up"  but "Before and After the Flood" lists
this as "When you awake" by Robertson/Manuel and this title matches the
lyics better.It is also listed that way on the official release.

EDLIS Boot Advisory Agent



Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 23:34:28 +0900
From: Masato Kato 
Subject: Ans: Into The Flood cd

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 16:37:11 GMT Eric Hooe  wrote:
>Subject: Ques: Into The Flood cd
>
>After searching EDLIS and a few CD sites, I can't find any info about a
>boot cd of a 1974 Dylan show in Japan called Into the Flood. Does
>anyone have any idea about the sound quality of this show and if it is
>a complete show?

     No better than the circulating tapes of 1974 shows.
     In other words, not good. This CD has 10 The Band tracks
     but the last 4 Dylan tracks is missing. Not at all complete.
>
> Or where the performance was since I've been old that Dylan did not
>perform in Japan untill 1978?
>
>This is what is listed on the website:
>
>BOB DYLAN & THE BAND - INTO THE FLOOD - JAPAN 15/1/74 (D)

     You are right. This CD has Jan. 15, 74 Capital Center,
     Landover, MD show.


Masato Kato

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