This page contains information on the various CDs of which the main content is the Los Angeles concert of 3 September 1965.
>Subject: Where Beauty Goes Unrecognized #15 >From: E.W.Schoneveld@caiw.nl (Eric Schoneveld) >Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 19:36:24 GMT >Junkyard Angel >Live at the Hollywood Bowl, September 3, 1965, 1 cd >Source: Soundboard > >1. She Belongs to Me >2. To Ramona >3. Gates of Eden >4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue >5. Desolation Row >6. Love Minus Zero/No Limit >7. Mr. Tambourine Man (incomplete) >8. I Don't Believe You >9. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues >10.From a Buick 6 >11.Maggie's Farm >12.Ballad of a Thin Man >13.Like a Rolling Stone > >THE release of 1998, just like Guitars Kiss was in '97. An (almost) >complete Soundboard of a 1965 show at the Hollywood Bowl '65. Amazing >performance, great quality, no serious Dylan collector can do without it... >Rating: 5/5
>From: aamirulla@aol.com (AAmirulla) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: HOLLYWOOD BOWL 65 BOOTLEG , IT EXISTS!!!!!!!! >Message-ID: <1998050411421600.HAA29473@ladder01.news.aol.com> >Date: 04 May 1998 11:42:16 GMT >Hi just want to let everyone out there whose heard the rumors about the >existence of a soundboard recording of this show know they're not >rumors, the bootleg is out and in circulation. I got a copy of it over >the weekend. Here's the track listing on the CD > 1- SHE BELONGS TO ME > 2- TO >RAMONA > 3- GATES OF EDEN > 4- IT'S ALL OVER NOW BABY BLUE > 5- DESOLATION ROW > > 6- LOVE MINUS ZERO / NO LIMIT > 7- MR. TAMBOURINE MAN > 8- I DON'T BELIEVE YOU > 9- JUST >LIKE TOM THUMB'S BLUES > 10- FROM A BUICK 6 > 11- MAGGIE'S FARM > 12- BALLAD OF A THIN >MAN >13- LIKE A ROLLING STONE > My overall impressions on the boot are positive , the >sound quality is very good , all songs can be heard clearly for the most >part, the performance is good the only problem is MR. TAMBOURINE MAN is >not heard in it's entirety it ends abruptly at the 5:31 mark. THE cover >of the CD says BOB DYLAN LIVE AT THE HOLLYWOOD >BOWL SEPTEMBER 3, 1965 SOUNDBOARD RECORDING AND has a photo of >dylan in a studio with a harmonica around his neck holding an electric >guitar with two amps in front of him the photo is set against a >background of rainbowish colored lines. >From: Dino>Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: HOLLYWOOD BOWL 65 BOOTLEG , IT EXISTS!!!!!!!! >Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 18:58:22 -0400 >Message-ID: <354E480E.53DE@geocities.com> >so the bootleggers got the acoustic set complete. sort of. >supposedly Tambourine Man is truncated. groan. >> >> If Tombstone Blues is "missing" from the circulating DAT, does someone >> know for sure that it exists as a soundboard recording? If so, is it >> currently circulating or not - and why not? > >warning--pure conjecture follows! > >a nasty explanation is that the reel ran out midway through Tambourine >Man, and no one noticed until Tombstone was already going. and >presumably the compiler must have thought leaving the fragment off was >justified in making the show fit on 1 CD. boo hiss. the first posts >about this tape claimed that the DAT was of the "complete show". but >that huge tape tree post also claimed that their half-ass tape was >complete (sorry, guys, but i see no reason to spread an incomplete >recording when a more complete one is available). so perhaps >completeness is relative. > >another (equally cynical) interpretation of the supposed warts on this >disc is that it was mastered from a 90 minute cassette. or that, god >fobid, the recording entered circulation via cassette from the original >reels. Tambourine Man would be clipped as the tape ran out at around 47 >minutes (or 52 if it was a 100 min tape). And certain songs would then >be selected to fit on side 2, probably those that are consecutive so >someone who wasn't looking carefully would think they had the whole >show. who'd notice the missing first song and the missing encore? half >of RMD, apparently. :-) > >is the soundboard tape mono or stereo? this could be a clue to it's >origins.
>From: djeaux@yahoo.com >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: HOLLYWOOD BOWL 65 BOOTLEG , IT EXISTS!!!!!!!! >Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 15:50:05 -0600 >Message-ID: <6inu2h$gpm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> >"Live at the Hollywood Bowl" (which is, >BTW, a CD-R) >Joe
>From: armstro5@interserv.com >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: 1965 Hollywood Bowl mini-review >Date: 7 May 1998 05:28:00 GMT >Message-ID: <6irgp0$7tq$1@lal.interserv.com> >I just got in a CD-R of the 9/3/65 soundboard from the Hollywood Bowl. > >It's definitely a "bridge" performance between his '65 "persona" and the infamous character who led the >'66 world tour onslaught. The acoustic performances are much more "65" in delivery than "66." And, the electric >songs are incredibly raw and tentative, very unlike the 66 performances. Buick is charming as a boogie-woogie >kind of workout. Thin Man and LARS are very weak (mix-wise) from a guitar standpoint, 'tho Kooper delivers >some sinister organ work on the former. I Don't Believe and Tom Thumb sound nothing like their 66 counterparts and >can most aptly be described as folk-rock in primitive form. Bob himself probably couldn't have yet envisioned what >the '66 sound would be like from listening to this electric performance. > >Dylan's vocals are very prominent in the mix. Levon is rock-steady...Robbie plays sparingly but effectively when >heard. > >All in all a true delight. Highly recommended as both a listening and historical piece. > >What's next?!! > >Tod
From: nak300@aol.com (NAK 300) Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan Subject: Western Electric '65 CD Message-ID: <1998051613340200.JAA05406@ladder03.news.aol.com> Date: 16 May 1998 13:34:02 GMT I picked this CD up yesterday, this is the Hollywood Bowl '65 show that has just come out. I guess that Junkyard Angel is also going by this title as well. It's a gold disk cd-r, but professionally done and the title is rubber stamped on the disk. No artwork as of yet, that will follow the middle of next week, I've also heard that a legit silver disk CD may also be released by the same guy who has done these cd-r's, and that will include an additional track that is missing due to the time limitations of the cd-r. Anyway the show is really good, it's not as crisp as GK is, but any soundboard from '65 is worth seeking out, over-all it's about an A- in quality. The acoustic set is really nice, Gates Of Eden is my current favorite, and the electric set is smoking as well...being a long-time fan of the Band, it sure is great to have a disk with Levon Helm on drums. I've only listened thru the entire disk once, but I'll give another listen today and send another posting on it.
>From: alan.fraser@mcmail.com (Alan Fraser) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: New CD "Western Electric" (1965 electric show!?!) >Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:11:36 GMT >Message-ID: <358cdb59.2781953@betanews.mcmail.com> >I'm told the sound on the Western Electric CD is bad because of poor >equalisation. I have this set as Hollywood Bowl 1965 on CD-R, which is >fine. There is also a version called Electric Black Nite Crash which I >haven't heard (Junkyard Angel is the same CD). Anyway, tapes are >circulating too, but the missing Tombstone Blues appears to be common >to all.
>From: lamook@ix.netcom.com (Eric Brooks) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: New CD "Western Electric" (1965 electric show!?!) >Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:55:53 -0400 >Message-ID:>I just received this cd as a Father's Day gift from my 13 year old (dear >boy...guess I must be doin' something right...). Haven't had a chance to >really listen to it yet, although I've had it on. The set was recorded at >the Hollywood Bowl on September 3, 1965The sound quality is muffled, but >no worse than some older boots... It starts acoustic, then goes electric >on "I Don't Believe You," with Robbie Robertson, Al Kooper, Harvey Brooks >& Levon Helm. Here is the set: > € She Belongs to Me > € To Ramona > € Gates of Eden > € It's All Over Now, Baby Blue > € Desolation Row > € Love Minus Zero/No Limit > € Mr. Tambourine Man > > € I Don't Believe You > € Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues > € From A Buick Six > € Maggie's Farm > € Ballad of a Thin Man > € Like a Rolling Stone > >Even if the sound quality ain't great, it's 72 minutes of live performance >from a seminal time.....
>From: armstro5@interserv.com >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: new soundboard news >Date: 26 Jul 1998 03:56:57 GMT >Message-ID: <6pe9e9$bbc$1@lal.interserv.com> > news on soundboards: > > The Hollywood '65 will be reissued as a double with 3 extra trax, including the TWO (not 3) missing > songs from the show--the opener, Tombstone Blues and It Ain't Me, Babe. Also, a Chambers Brothers > version of a Dylan song will be included, for some strange reason. > Tod >From: Ben Taylor>Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: new soundboard news >Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:53:37 +0100 >Message-ID: >This tape is already circulating of the 3 September 1965 concert. The >start of "Tombstone Blues" is missing but "It Ain't Me Babe" is >complete. Also, it does not have that odd artificial tape loop at the >end of "Tambourine Man". > >I'm guessing that the "Chamber Brothers' version of a Dylan song" is >Dylan's released Tombstone Blues recording with their overdubbed >chorus. This began circulating about a year ago, along with other >Highway 61 acetates. (I hope I have the right track name here, I'm >doing this from memory)
>From: rcj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Craig Jamieson) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: We Had Known A Lion (VigOtone, VT 170, VT 171, 1998)... >Date: 17 Aug 1998 17:06:19 GMT >Message-ID: <6r9nub$iud$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk> >We Had Known A Lion >2 CD-Rs >VigOtone, VT 170, VT 171, 1998 > >Hollywood Bowl, Hollywood, California, 3 September 1965. >Once more tape traders were way ahead of the CD-R buyers, but now this >CD-R with Tombstone Blues and It Ain't Me Babe is widely available. > >This might be preferred over Electric Black Nite Crash (Junkyard Angel, >Junk 001A, 1998) because this has the complete tape, which would not >fit on a single CD... > >Similarly all the previous commercial CD-Rs we have seen in this neck of >the woods did not have the complete tape. > >What are opinions of the final Tombstone Blues on the second CD-R, >not the concert version but the filler?
>From: Alan Fraser>Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: We Had Known a Lion >Date: 19 Aug 1998 05:35:23 -0700 >Message-ID: <6regqb$apg@drn.newsguy.com> >>Anyone have it ?? (2CDs complete Hollywood Bowl 9/3/65). >Not under that name. It's available here as Walking Like Rimbaud >(Shotgun Records Inc.). CD1 is the acoustic set, CD2 is the electric >set, 15 songs in all.
>From: rberg51@aol.com (RBERG51) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: Hollywood Bowl '65 on Vigatone/update >Message-ID: <1998082021262000.RAA15483@ladder01.news.aol.com> >Date: 20 Aug 1998 21:26:20 GMT >for those who want to know, the Vigotone does have the missing songs, but those >songs are not complete, but only fragments of songs.
>From: alan.fraser@mcmail.com (Alan Fraser) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: Hollywood Bowl '65 on Vigatone/update >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:25:36 GMT >Message-ID: <35dda1c3.20805263@news.mcmail.com> >Track list of Walkin' Like Rimbaud > >CD1 (Acoustic) > >She Belongs To Me 00:04:12 >To Ramona 2 00:05:48 >Gates Of Eden 3 00:06:55 >It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue 4 00:05:24 >Desolation Row 5 00:10:23 >Love Minus Zero/No Limit 6 00:04:21 >Mr Tambourine Man 7 00:06:09 > >CD2 (Electric) > >Tombstone Blues 1 00:04:57 * >I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) 2 >00:04:55 >From A Buick Six 3 00:03:55 >Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues 4 00:05:23 >Maggie's Farm 5 00:04:59 >It Ain't Me, Babe 6 00:04:48 * >Ballad Of A Thin Man 7 00:06:22 >Like A Rolling Stone 8 00:09:14 > >Those marked (*) are the extra tracks over the 1 CD set.
>From: Thad Williamson>Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: We Had Known a Lion review >Message-ID: >Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) > >We Had Known A Lion; Vigotone 170/171 > >Hollywood Bowl, Los Angeles. Sept 3, 1965. > >Disc 1: acoustic--1. She Belongs to Me 2. To Ramona 3. Gates of Eden 4. >It's All Over Now, Baby Blue 5. Desolation Row 6. Love Minus Zero 7. >Tambourine Man > >Disc 2: backed by Robertson, Helm, Kooper and Harvey Brooks. 1. >Tombstone Blues 2. I don't Believe You 3. From a Buick 6 4. Tom Thumb >5. Maggie's Farm 6. Ain't Me, Babe 7. Thin Man 8. Like a Rolling Stone >9. Studio outtake of Tombstone Blues with backing vocal overdub (by >backup singers) > >Total: 91 minutes. > >This release is an important addition to the corpus of Dylan's most >productive of all years, 1965. This is a full concert, one week after >Forest Hills, the second post-Newport concert, in pristine sound >quality--far better obviously than the unlistenable Forest Hills tape, >and also substantially superior to the Berkeley 12-4-65 recording (as >on "Long Distance Operator", Wanted Man 001). > >The acoustic performance here is par for the course, 1965, with a few >words by Dylan between a couple of the songs. He introduces "Desolation >Row," briefly which gets its second live performance here. The audience >actually laughs during the first verse at the "other is in his pants" >line. (Elsewhere, women in the audience call for what sounds like >"Hollis Brown" a couple of times. Dylan laughs.) Pace of the tune is >about 50% faster than the '66 tour performances. (The concert as a >whole duplicates the Forest Hills setlist; liner notes on CD contradict >Krogsgaard in wrongly asserting that this is the debut of Thin Man.) >"She Belongs to Me" sounds great. It's vintage if not truly >transcendent acoustic Dylan '65 on the first disc. (Okay, Love-O is >transcendent...but then I think it usually is.) > >The second half is of greater interest. The sound on these tracks is >substantially different from both Newport and Berkeley (not surprising >given the different band lineup here)--far less raucous than Newport, >less polished than Berkeley, and far more prone to Dylan singing almost >operatically. LARS is the most obvious case in point. There is no >soaring guitar line here, for some reason, very minimal backing. And >this goes for most of the other songs as well. Most remarkable is a Tom >Thumb unlike anything I'd ever heard before--again, little guitar, >playing mainly trills for some sort of Mexican effect (similar to what >RR does on the Berkeley performance), but also cute little organ frills >throughout, and Dylan stretching out every line like a trained tenor. > >Ironically, "From a Buick 6", in this all but one-off performance, >sounds most like the record of the Highway 61 songs here. Good stuff, >although you can tell it fell a little flat with the audience, who >would have had five days to pick up their Highway 61 album before >coming to this concert. > >To be honest though, this is a pretty plain-sounding band, and the >riffs played are borderline cheesy, especially from Kooper, on a couple >of cuts--i.e. Tombstone Blues. (Robertson's guitar is very fine on that >track, on the other hand.) A major exception is Thin Man, where Kooper >plays pretty much the organ part on the record, a nice dark sound. >Dylan's voice is biting and inspired on this performance. Probably the >strongest cut on the CD. > >After the slightly weird sounding LARS, Dylan signs off with a "Thank >you very much" in a tone of voice that's a little difficult to >decipher. No encores, just a message from the PA announcer telling the >audience to go home. > >All in all, as a performance, I don't quite like as much as Newport or >Berkeley, or needless to say, England '66. But it is not inferior--just >different, a telling early stage in the electrification of Bob Dylan. >For that reason, well worth having...and of course, having this concert >in circulation just amplifies and reemphasizes the incredible growth >and productivity of Dylan between January of 65 (BIABH session) and the >end of that very summer..hard to believe this show is just 3 months >removed from the all-acoustic BBC sessions and the Times/Freewheelin' >dominated England tour of '65. Not only that, but, to repeat, the sound >quality on this show is really excellent. > >Other notes: > >Tombstone Blues (live cut) picks up at end of first verse; some >distorted tape on the harmonica fadeout of Tambourine man. Otherwise, >A+ sound. Liner notes on back cover; inside contains a review of the >show offered on a radio show (apparently) about a month after the >concert, that concludes "For an hour or two, we had known a lion." The >studio outtake with the vocal overdubs (on the refrain) is pretty >amusing--a little bluegrass harmony tossed in. The backup voices are >unidentified. It sounds like they're singing "food", not "the fuse", >FWIW. Ditto on the hollywood bowl performance from Dylan's mouth. >Message-ID: <35EC06E9.2781@punkhart.com> >Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 07:38:33 -0700 >From: John Howells >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: We Had Known a Lion review > >Thad Williamson wrote: >> A major exception is Thin Man, where Kooper >> plays pretty much the organ part on the record, a nice dark sound. > >Kooper didn't play the organ part on the record, though. It was >way beyond his capabilities at that time. I think Kooper played >electric piano, Paul Griffin played Hammond organ, and Dylan played >acoustic piano. Kooper does a good job on the live version, but it >in no way resembles the organ part on the record. >> The >> studio outtake with the vocal overdubs (on the refrain) is pretty >> amusing--a little bluegrass harmony tossed in. The backup voices are >> unidentified. It sounds like they're singing "food", not "the fuse", >> FWIW. Ditto on the hollywood bowl performance from Dylan's mouth. >It was the Chambers Brothers.
>From: rcj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Craig Jamieson) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Back In Hollywood Bowl 1965 (Bell Bottom 036, 1998)... >Date: 7 Sep 1998 12:17:18 GMT >Message-ID: <6t0ise$oik$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk> >Back In Hollywood Bowl 1965 >Bell Bottom 036, 1998 >Just another glass-mastered incarnation of the CD >Electric Black Nite Crash (Junkyard Angel, Junk 001, 1998) >and the CD Hollywood Bowl - Desk Tape 1965 (HB 09, 1998) >found also on perhaps 8 different CD-R titles such as >Live At The Hollywood Bowl (Western Electric/Wild Wolf, >1998) etc etc etc? > >The complete tape everyone was trading ages ago is available >on We Had Known A Lion (2 CD-Rs, Vigotone, 071, 072, 1998) >for those who prefer CD-R to tape trading.
Crazy Joe ratings (on a scale from 0 - 5): 5 for "Electric Black Nite Crash"
>From: Alan Fraser>Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: We Had Known a Lion >Date: 14 Sep 1998 01:34:41 -0700 >Message-ID: <6tikf1$ggv@drn.newsguy.com> >In article , ronbow1@aol.com says... >> >>Has anyone been able to A/B the new Vigotone 2-CD set of Hollywood Bowl 65 >>against the Western Electric? >> >>Curious about quality -- same, similar? >No experience of either of these specific sets, but someone who's >heard them both told me the single CD Hollywood Bowl 65 was from >the same source but had better sound than Western Electric. I have >heard both Hollywood Bowl 65 and the 2 CD set on Shotgun Records >called Walkin' Like Rimbaud (the same material as We had Known A >Lion) and I can definitely say that the sound on the single CD is better >than the double, which suffers from distortion in the louder parts.
>From: gillamont@aol.com (GilLamont) >Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan >Subject: Re: We Had Known a Lion (Was: Dylan import CD) >Date: 2 Nov 1998 16:55:04 GMT >>We Had Known a Lion" has > >>Disc 1 >> >>(Same as 1-7 on LatHB) >> >>Disc 2 >>(All electric) >>1. Tombstone Blues >>2. Believe You >>3. Buick 6 >>4. Tom Thumb >>5. Maggie's >>6. It Ain't Me Babe >>7. Thin Man >>8. Like a Rolling... >> >>bonus: studio alternate version >>9. Tombstone Blues (acetate) >> >>So as far as the concert goes we are talking two additional electric >>songs and a change in order (swapping Buick and Tom Thumb). >> >>Any comments? Is "Lion" the whole show? Is the order correct there? >> > >This concert isn't listed in Krogsgaard, but the August 28 1965 Forest Hills >show is [113]. In that show, the electric set has the same order. > >So, if one dares to assume ...
> From: "Thomas Stemper"> Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan > Subject: FS: Dylan "WE HAD KNOWN A LION" 2 CD real VigOtone release > Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:38:35 -0600 > Available for sale: Double CD authentic VigOtone release (catalog > #VT-170/171 and you can tell it's an original by the photo clarity of the > inserts) of the relatively new Dylan title "WE HAD KNOWN A LION" which > contains the COMPLETE Hollywood Bowl, LA, 9/3/65 concert [acoustic and > electric sets] plus the 6:26 minute bonus track of "Tombstone Blues" > w/background vocal overdub by the Chambers Brothers. Please note, if you > don't already know, that ALL new VigOtone releases, going back for well over > one year now, are on CD-R. This particular double CD-R is on Kodak CD-R and > both discs are in pristine shape (no smudges or scratches whatsoever).
> From: peer.donner@iname.com > Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan > Subject: Re: Hollywood Bowl Concert, Sept. 1965 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:48:10 GMT > I got one hollywood bowl cd in feb. ´98. > Don´t know if it´s > the complete show, but it´s great. Titels: 1. She belongs 2. Ramona 3. Gates > of Eden 4. Baby Blue 5. DR 6. Love Minus Zero 7. Tambourine Man (all > accoustic) 8. Don´t belive 9. Tom Thumbs 10. Buick 6 11. Maggies Farm 12 Thin > Man. 13. Rolling Stone (electric). There´s no label-sign on that cd except > HB09 (Could be Bowl an september). So then it must be the CD "Bob Dylan: Hollywood Bowl - Desk Tape 1965" > Okay, sound quality is a problem. Lot´s of > up´s and down´s. Sound in DR is nearly fucked up. Anyway - I love this one. > From: alan.fraser@cwcom.net (Alan Fraser) > Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan > Subject: Re: Hollywood Bowl Concert, Sept. 1965 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:22:39 GMT > This is missing 2 electric songs - It Ain't Me, Babe and Tombstone > Blues. They can be found on Folk Rogue and The Ghost Of Electricity. > The sets We Have Known A Lion and Walkin' Like Rimbaud both have the > concert on 2 CDs with the 8 electric songs on CD2, but not in that > good quality. The recent Dandelion release, From Newport To The > Ancient Empty Street Of LA, has the set in better quality with Newport > at the front and the out-take of Tombstone Blues with the Chambers > Brothers as a bonus track. It does, however, split the acoustic set > across CDs 1 and 2, which I find annoying.