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> Subject:      Dirty Lies - Summer 84 Rehearsals source?
> From:         Jeff 
> Date:         1996/02/28
> Newsgroups:   rec.music.dylan

> Bootleg 2CD Dirty Lies (Wanted Man Music 45/46) lists source as May 23-24-25
> 1984 at the Beverly Theater rehearsal. These songs match some of Krogsgaard
> May 23-24-25-26 1984 at the Beverly Theater. However Dundas matches the
> contents of this Cd at Late May 1984 Verona, Italy rehearsal and puts the
> remainder of Krogsgaard on only May 23. For further identification to tapers
> this Cd includes rarities Almost Done, Enough is Enough, Dirty Lies, Why Do I
> have to Choose, and To Each His Own. Anyone know which is correct?


> Subject: 1984 tour rehearsals query > Author: lepkowsk > Email: lepkowsk@oakland.edu > Date: 1998/04/16 > Forums: rec.music.dylan > The 2cd set "Dirty Lies" (Wanted Man 45/46) says it was recorded at the > Beverly Theatre, May 23-25, 1984. The contents don't match what Olof shows > for that date, but rather seem to match what he shows for Verona rehearsals on > the 28th. Krosgaard lists a lot more stuff for both dates, but seems to > have the reverse. > The tracks are as follows: > > CD1 (mislabelled CD2) > Jokerman > All Along the Watchtower > Just Like A Woman > Highway 61 > I and I > Girl From the North Country/Shelter from the Storm > Shelter From the Storm > Instrumental/License to Kill > Ballad of a Thin Man > When you Gonna Wake Up > To Ramona > > CD2 (mislabelled CD1) > Instrumental 1 > Jam > Instrumental 2 > Jam > Instrumental 3 > Almost Done 1 > Almost Done 2 > Almost Done 3 > Almost Done 4 > Almost Done 5 > Enough is Enough > Dirty Lies > Why Do I have to Choose? > To Each His Own > Instrumental 4 > > Does anyone out there know which session this is really from? Are there other > CDs out there with different material from 1984 tour rehearsals? On the basis > of these discs, I'd say it's truly great stuff. Thanks. > > Frank Lepkowski
> Subject: Dirty lies > Author: Carlos Serra Guevara > Email: cserra@etsin.upm.es > Date: 1998/11/29 > Forums:rec.music.dylan > Hi, I am thinking of getting the "Dirty lies" boot, which features the > Beverly Hills rehearsals for the 1984 tour. I understand the sound is > great, but are the performances also good? > I like "Real live" a lot, but it drags a bit on the electric tracks (It > has my favourite version of TUIB, though) Paul Williams seems to think > Dylan is just going through the motions just so that the band learn the > tracks, but I have read elsewhere that it is an essential purchase. > Any opinions? > Subject: Re: Dirty lies > Author: fjlepkowski > Email: fjlepkowski@ameritech.net > Date:1998/11/29 > Forums: rec.music.dylan > I like this one a lot, but I don't know if it meets the high criterion of > _essential_. In the studio, his voice retains more of the Infidels > inflection than it does in the big venues of the 84 shows. So I really like > it for the way he sings the songs. I am less fond of the disc that has a > lot of instrumentals, but it also has "Why do I have to Choose?" continuing > the Willie Nelson cover trend begun with "Angel Flying too Close to the > Ground." In a certain way, it feels like a bit of that Infidels energy is > floating around. Really, I kind of like the way this band sounds in > rehearsal better than it does on the live tapes or Real Live. I don't find > these to be "going through the motions" as I've seen elsewhere, too. He > sings quite passionately, though there are some rough moments from time to > time that remind you that it's rehearsal material. > > One thing, I think there is some doubt as to whether these are really from > the Beverly Hills rehearsals. Setlist matches more closely the Verona > rehearsals from a couple of days later. I asked about this here a few > months ago but no one seemed to know the answer, and even EDLIS admitted > bafflement. I recently saw on someone's trade page a suggestion that this > was actually a split with the numbers on one disc coming from Beverly Hills, > and the other from Verona. Who knows? > > Frank Lepkowski > Re: Dirty lies > Author: Alan Fraser > Email: alan.fraser@cwcom.net > Date: 1998/11/30 > Forums: rec.music.dylan > Dundas. Dirty Lies is from Arena di Verona. The Dundas Verona > rehearsal setlist matches the boot CD set, but with the tracks on CD2 > coming before those on CD1. I haven't got these in front of me, but > the Dirty Lies CD may have a few tracks missing from the Dundas list. > The circulating Beverley Theatre rehearsal tape again matches Dundas' > list for those dates a few days earlier. > Subject: Re: Dirty lies > Author: Alan Fraser > Email: alan.fraser@cwcom.net > Date: 1998/11/30 > Forums: rec.music.dylan > EDLIS admitted bafflement? I don't believe it! > > Dundas dates the Dirty Lies tracks clearly as from the Arena di Verona, > exact correspondence with the Dirty Lies CD except with the order > reversed, the tracks on CD2 coming before those on CD1. There is also > a circulating tape of the Beverley Theatre rehearsals which agrees with > Dundas' Beverley Theatre track list from a few days before. > > Conclusion - the Dirty Lies CD tracks are totally mis-dated.